25[2020-08-12 13:44:40] * Darkdoomer (Darkdoomer@Pony-drmsa3.rev.wtfux.org) joins #derpibooru-help 28[2020-08-12 13:44:40] * Topic is: Problem with Derpibooru? Ask here. Please be patient as it may take a bit for us to respond, and don't idle unless waiting. 28[2020-08-12 13:44:40] * Topic set by Nebulon!Nebbie@already.touching.your.butt at Sun Nov 25 23:58:44 2018 29[2020-08-12 13:44:42] * #derpibooru-help has modes: +Pnt 29[2020-08-12 13:44:42] * #derpibooru-help created on Fri Nov 23 06:33:57 2018 21[2020-08-12 14:03:07] https://boards.4channel.org/mlp/thread/35713066#p35733511 21[2020-08-12 14:03:32] Thanks Nebbie very cool 25[2020-08-12 15:11:46] * laptoponim (laptoponim@Pony-kun2nu.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) joins #derpibooru-help 25[2020-08-12 23:47:11] * Now talking in: #derpibooru-help 25[2020-08-12 23:47:11] * Darkdoomer (Darkdoomer@Pony-drmsa3.rev.wtfux.org) joins #derpibooru-help 28[2020-08-12 23:47:11] * Topic is: Problem with Derpibooru? Ask here. Please be patient as it may take a bit for us to respond, and don't idle unless waiting. 28[2020-08-12 23:47:11] * Topic set by Nebulon!Nebbie@already.touching.your.butt at Sun Nov 25 23:58:44 2018 29[2020-08-12 23:47:13] * #derpibooru-help has modes: +Pnt 29[2020-08-12 23:47:13] * #derpibooru-help created on Fri Nov 23 06:33:57 2018 21[2020-08-12 23:49:22] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/730093648548462642/743034228425359400/unknown.png So, tell me again, when a leftist attacks right wingers it's cool, it's free speech. When the opposite happens it 21[2020-08-12 23:49:36] is a violation of rule 0, Nebs ? 21[2020-08-12 23:50:14] You just banned me 'cause you don't have the balls to debate. 21[2020-08-12 23:51:54] https://derpibooru.org/forums/meta/topics/explanation-of-update-to-rule-0-for-consistency-and-clarity-especially-in-regards-to-racism?post_id=4905666 21[2020-08-12 23:52:19] You think no one archives these before they are deleted? 24[2020-08-13 00:00:00] * Day changed to Thursday, 13. Aug 2020 16[2020-08-13 00:04:18] < %Nebbie > Someone called you dumb 3 days ago and that's not great. 16[2020-08-13 00:04:53] < %Ciaran > I honestly can't tell if you're being sincere or if you're doing more of the 'edgy larping' that you keep talking about. 16[2020-08-13 00:05:05] < %Nebbie > If they were ad homineming you to try to win an argument, they'd for sure be warned, but they were bringing you up due to the rest of the topic. 16[2020-08-13 00:05:29] < %Ciaran > I see the first image is a screencap of a politics thread on Discord. 16[2020-08-13 00:05:34] < %Ciaran > What is the second a screenshot of? 16[2020-08-13 00:06:09] < %Ciaran > I'm just seening a whole page of posts, I don't see anything getting highlighted. Which post is your question/concern about? 16[2020-08-13 00:06:36] < %Nebbie > The like is supposed to go to the post that says "My concern with that is stuff like the chonicling of the Twilicorn drama. A lot of history could be lost if that is enforced broadly." 16[2020-08-13 00:06:44] < %Nebbie > I don't see what that has to do with...any of this. 16[2020-08-13 00:06:52] < %Nebbie > link* 21[2020-08-13 00:07:29] Do I need to ask some anon on rizon to take a whole screenshot of the #politics thread? 21[2020-08-13 00:07:46] You totally know what I'm talking about. 18[2020-08-13 00:08:04] < %Ciaran > Ah - thank you. I don't know how that's involved in any of this, either. Darkdoomer , can you expand on your concern or question about that post? 18[2020-08-13 00:08:46] < %Ciaran > Darkdoomer : I do not know what you are talking about. What are your concerns or questions about someone's posts in the policital thread on our discord? 21[2020-08-13 00:09:32] https://discord.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/730985481344516106 21[2020-08-13 00:09:50] Can you read this? 21[2020-08-13 00:10:16] https://discord.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/740847867983298580 21[2020-08-13 00:10:30] https://discord.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/740848025294995487 21[2020-08-13 00:10:40] https://discord.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/742215195392344075 16[2020-08-13 00:10:48] < %Ciaran > Ok, so ... I see I'm looking at the Politics channel on our Discord. Yes, I can read it. 21[2020-08-13 00:10:53] https://discord.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/742215255228284991 21[2020-08-13 00:11:05] https://discord.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/742215548397551686 21[2020-08-13 00:11:18] https://discord.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/742215676491464786 21[2020-08-13 00:11:26] https://discord.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/742215802404470857 21[2020-08-13 00:12:14] So I know you won't remove these, neither stop fucking with people with different political opinion than yours. 27[2020-08-13 00:12:18] * CyanLightning (CyanLightni@Pony-ms4.k87.69.36.IP) has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed) 16[2020-08-13 00:12:25] < %Ciaran > Please stop posting those. That's on our discord. It's in the politics channel. None of your links are opening any particular post, can you please say what the problem is that you are trying to either ask a question about, or express a concern about? 21[2020-08-13 00:12:33] And play that game forever 16[2020-08-13 00:12:44] < %Ciaran > How am I fucking with people with different opinions than my own? 21[2020-08-13 00:12:53] That's just rule0. 16[2020-08-13 00:12:56] < %Nebbie > I think those links should work, but they're going to browser for me rather than Discord. 16[2020-08-13 00:13:14] < %Nebbie > I think someone calling you dumb was a bit over the line but not a huge deal. 21[2020-08-13 00:13:16] By not taking action and not having some respect towards your users 21[2020-08-13 00:13:45] Well if that's not a huge deal, you caution this. 16[2020-08-13 00:13:50] < %Ciaran > Ok, if you don't have a question about Derpibooru, please close this channel so people who actually have questions about Derpibooru can have privacy. 21[2020-08-13 00:14:17] If it was a right winger calling Dissociativity names without being able to reply or defend himself 21[2020-08-13 00:14:24] you would ban them. 21[2020-08-13 00:14:37] Listen up. 16[2020-08-13 00:14:38] < %Ciaran > Honest to god I have hidden that channel since the day the server was created. Maybe you should do the same. 21[2020-08-13 00:15:08] Well no, because staff discusses me , and everyone should. TSP accuses me of 21[2020-08-13 00:15:17] (wait i'm reading the last one ) 21[2020-08-13 00:15:33] «For all we know he's a hardcore tankie and he's just playing a fool to make remotely sane people despise what is most public persona represents» 16[2020-08-13 00:15:41] < %Ciaran > Everyone should what? Read the political containment thread? No thank you. 21[2020-08-13 00:16:21] Okay so Nebbie banned me because I defended myself or dared to complain about that 21[2020-08-13 00:16:29] from the Discord. 21[2020-08-13 00:17:21] Thinking that it's gonna keep me away from knowing what happens there. Too bad, there's like 7 or 8 other people there who PM me whenever TSP or that guy have a theory about me 21[2020-08-13 00:17:34] «For all we know he's a hardcore tankie and he's just playing a fool to make remotely sane people despise what is most public persona represents» 16[2020-08-13 00:17:52] < %Nebbie > If you called Dissasociativity dumb in a channel he wasn't allowed in. 16[2020-08-13 00:17:59] < %Nebbie > When the topic was briefly about him. 16[2020-08-13 00:18:15] < %Nebbie > I would consider it much the same; not good behavior, but as long as it didn't go further I wouldn't bother dealing with it. 21[2020-08-13 00:18:35] Okay so everything on this politics thread is fine for you. 16[2020-08-13 00:18:56] < %Nebbie > We stopped talking about you immediately after, yes it was within reason. 21[2020-08-13 00:19:38] Why did you warn me about a ban and then ban me immediately then. 21[2020-08-13 00:21:20] https://discord.com/channels/430829008402251796/730093648548462642/743054738685165588 21[2020-08-13 00:21:37] Never had a reply after this. 21[2020-08-13 00:23:05] You know what? This is pointless. You don't give a fuck. You want to continue treating users you disagree with like shit? 18[2020-08-13 00:23:16] < %Ciaran > Darkdoomer : I was not involved in whatever you are talking about on Discord. But I have seen some of your comments about why you believe you were banned. You seem to feel that you were banned because of your opinions. Is that true? 16[2020-08-13 00:23:29] < %Ciaran > See - right there, you say this is about 'users you disagree with' 21[2020-08-13 00:23:30] Not you Ciaran, it's me and Nebbie. 16[2020-08-13 00:23:43] < %Ciaran > Is that why you think you were banned? Because some of us disagree with you? 21[2020-08-13 00:26:07] Let your buddies attack others for their views, like Dissociativity does, this guys is a complete troll, do you think you're giving them a service? Wrong. Know that by pissing people off, soon or late shit will blow on their face. And you're gonna say «ow the evil nazi channers posted this guy's info and screenshots on kiwifarms» 21[2020-08-13 00:26:28] that's what you want? Because that's totally possible, unless there's a good reason for us not to do it. 16[2020-08-13 00:27:05] < %Ciaran > Phew. Ok, this seems to have gone completely off the rails. I don't know what your problem with Dissociativity is, and unless it somehow involves the site I can't help you with your problems with them. 16[2020-08-13 00:27:26] < %Ciaran > Do you think the only reason you were banned was because some of staff disagree with you? 21[2020-08-13 00:27:51] It exactly is, what is your idea on the reason? 16[2020-08-13 00:28:43] < %Ciaran > Ok. Do you remember talking about how you were only trolling others or, if I'm remembering this correctly - sorry if I'm misstating this - 'edgy larping'. Is that an accurate restatement of your purposes for some of the posting you were banned for? 21[2020-08-13 00:29:48] I'm not larping, I'm serioyus here and you should be glad I'm nice enough to tell you that 16[2020-08-13 00:30:09] < %Ciaran > I'm trying to refer back to a conversation we have had about this in the past, where you were banned for trolling others, but insisted that it was because we disagreed with the fake personna you were presenting, and we banned you because we disagreed with the character you were larping, not because you were larping in the political threads. 21[2020-08-13 00:30:31] https://discord.com/channels/430829008402251796/730093648548462642/743056921229131836 Nebu: Draw horses and STFU. 16[2020-08-13 00:30:32] < %Ciaran > Because all of your bans that I've been involved with have been some sort of 'edgy larping' or trolling. 16[2020-08-13 00:30:43] < %Ciaran > Not because of your opinions - because you were trolling others. 16[2020-08-13 00:30:50] < %Ciaran > And trolling is not allowed on Derpibooru. 21[2020-08-13 00:30:51] Fuck it, I have the right of having an opinion instead of drawing shit. 16[2020-08-13 00:31:01] < %Ciaran > But you keep saying this is about your opinions, not your trolling others. 21[2020-08-13 00:31:17] So when I have an opinion it's trolling. 16[2020-08-13 00:31:24] < %Ciaran > Wew. 16[2020-08-13 00:31:53] < %Ciaran > Ok, let's try one more time. You said you were just trolling others so it should be ok that you were sockpuppeting or saying outrageous stuff just to see how angry you could get others. Right? 21[2020-08-13 00:31:55] When I was RPing as mote it was trolling. 16[2020-08-13 00:32:00] < %Ciaran > Well, trolling is Rule #0 - you're banned. 16[2020-08-13 00:32:13] < %Ciaran > We don't have to care what your opinions are. You were trolling. 16[2020-08-13 00:32:28] < %Ciaran > The most recent stuff you were doing in the Political Generals thread was also trolling. 21[2020-08-13 00:32:33] I have been banned for creating Mote and unbanned for it ages ago. 16[2020-08-13 00:32:41] < %Ciaran > It doesn't matter what opinions you were expressing when you were trolling, you were trolling. Banned. 21[2020-08-13 00:33:11] Excuse me but on that post I did not use a single insult or anything. 16[2020-08-13 00:33:41] < %Ciaran > I'd have to look it up again to remember, but IIRC you were doing some sort of 'pushing to see how extreme you could be' or something like that. 16[2020-08-13 00:34:02] < %Ciaran > And doing that in the political thread is a please don't do that here. 16[2020-08-13 00:34:17] < %Ciaran > I don't care what your opinion about things is. I honestly don't believe I have any idea what your real opinions are. 16[2020-08-13 00:34:28] < %Ciaran > But if you're trolling people, then you're banned again. 21[2020-08-13 00:35:01] The only hard thing I could have done to another person was to bring in some Meredith Monk. (And for having someone who play this from times to times, I admit that was the most inhuman thing I could have made. ) Well the probmem with you guys you don't understand the difference between trolling and sarcasm. 16[2020-08-13 00:35:51] < %Ciaran > Well, if your sarcasm is indistinguishable from trolling or insulting others, then you're going to have to forgive us for responding to what we see on the page, not what you intended to mean. 21[2020-08-13 00:36:08] Nah I was very serious about that guy on the politics forum and I used the exact saé technique. 21[2020-08-13 00:36:59] But okay I have been banned from that place on derpibooru 16[2020-08-13 00:37:07] < %Ciaran > Sorry, I have no idea what that is. Is that similar to 'malicious obedience'? 21[2020-08-13 00:38:11] and also banned from the politics chat on discord. (let me finish i'm french and that's slower and i try not to post charabiah here.) 16[2020-08-13 00:38:58] < %Ciaran > I have to go, but just so you know, the United States election is ramping up, and so we're going to be spending less time asking whether someone is serious or not when they are in a political thread doing something that looks a lot like Rule #0. Those are containment zones, they're not the purpose of the site, they're not what people volunteer to help moderate, they're just containment zones. So if people are causing problems in them 16[2020-08-13 00:38:58] < %Ciaran > we're going to be more likely to give them bans than spend an hour talking with them about it. 16[2020-08-13 00:39:36] < %Ciaran > So, if you're in one of our political threads, please try to keep it above the belt. And if it's on the site itself and you see someone breaking a rule, report it. We're not monitoring those threads unless we absolutely have to. 16[2020-08-13 00:40:01] < %Ciaran > And if someone happens to be participating in there, they aren't moderating it. They're just posting themselves. If someone is actually participating in a thread, someone ELSE has to moderate it. 21[2020-08-13 00:40:09] I reseat my case. Nebbie banned me from the Discord for complaining that TSP and Nebbie, mods must I add, find a little pleasure knowing I cannot reply to elaborate all kind of conspiracy theories like I'm some kind of boogeyman 16[2020-08-13 00:40:21] < %Ciaran > So just because you see a mod in the thread, doesn't mean they're 'working' the thread. 16[2020-08-13 00:40:49] < %Ciaran > Like, if I'm in the politics thread and see someone breaking a rule, I have to open a report. I can't unilaterally act on it. And I'm already at my limit of reports, so ... nope. 16[2020-08-13 00:41:11] < %Ciaran > I'm ... trying to parse your "reseat of case". 16[2020-08-13 00:42:03] < %Nebbie > I think he meant "rest", as in he thinks his argument needs no further explanation. 21[2020-08-13 00:42:17] Imagine you are on a forum and blocked from a place while some guy start talking bullshit about you. another is like "yeah this guy should tekke medz" 21[2020-08-13 00:42:53] Yayo Nebbie, so , tell us, how do you justify this sentence. 18[2020-08-13 00:43:19] < %Ciaran > Darkdoomer : I thought you were muted from politics as a part of the agreement that permitted you to rejoin the server. 21[2020-08-13 00:43:22] https://discord.com/channels/430829008402251796/501780687230074890/742215548397551686 21[2020-08-13 00:43:30] Yes I was 16[2020-08-13 00:43:53] < %Ciaran > I don't believe you were banned because staff find "a little pleasure knowing (you) cannot reply to elaborate all kind of conspiracy theorie" 21[2020-08-13 00:43:55] Nebbie is fully aware of it but doesn't care. 16[2020-08-13 00:44:40] < %Ciaran > I don't believe you were banned from the politics thread because we don't want you to elaborate on conspiracy theories. 21[2020-08-13 00:44:50] Just go to the poltiics forum and search "patachu" you will know what I'm talking about 16[2020-08-13 00:46:23] < %Ciaran > Looking back through it, it looks like you were asked if you were going to stop and you didn't. I also see a fairly extensive tirade from you about how you never did anything wrong, it was just sarcasm. 21[2020-08-13 00:46:48] I'd loved to stop and be friendly again 21[2020-08-13 00:46:55] except that should be mutual. 21[2020-08-13 00:47:27] Imagine you surrender and the other guys keep shootin at you. Do you think it's civil? 16[2020-08-13 00:47:29] < %Ciaran > I can't help you with Discord. I barely use it and don't moderate there. I just use it for answering questions. 16[2020-08-13 00:47:35] < %Ciaran > And none of this seems to have anything to do with this site. 21[2020-08-13 00:47:37] https://s2.desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/mlp/image/1596/20/1596203896325.png Even fucking /mlp/ is joking about that 16[2020-08-13 00:47:40] < %Nebbie > I'm gonna say quite simply if you want to be on the Discord, you can't blow up the moment you see people talking about your on-site behavior there. 16[2020-08-13 00:48:12] < %Nebbie > You can ask mods about it in a calm manner, and maybe there's reason to tell Disassociativity to not say someone's the dumbest person etc. etc. 21[2020-08-13 00:48:17] So for you it's normal to troll and flame down an user and don't allow him to defend himself? 16[2020-08-13 00:48:28] < %Ciaran > And, seriously, if you do in the political thread on DB what you appear to have been doing on the discord, you will get banned from DB. You may try to pass it off as 'just' trolling or edgy larping, but trolling and edgy larping in the political thread on DB will get you banned. 21[2020-08-13 00:48:30] That's exactly what you are implying Nebbie, right? 16[2020-08-13 00:48:34] < %Ciaran > So please don't. 16[2020-08-13 00:48:58] < %Nebbie > Nobody was trying to harass you. 21[2020-08-13 00:49:22] At this point I'm not posting on derpi anymore or anywhere else 21[2020-08-13 00:49:39] Nebbie, what were you implying on the forum then 16[2020-08-13 00:49:51] < %Nebbie > I'm not sure what you mean. 16[2020-08-13 00:50:02] < %Ciaran > Ok, as this does not have anything to do with Derpibooru itself I'll drop from the channel. 21[2020-08-13 00:50:03] I quote, «Princess Luna (Nebbie)10/08/2020 21[2020-08-13 00:50:03] From what I've seen recently, I'm pretty sure he has some kind of disorder. 21[2020-08-13 00:50:03] And fascist stuff he latches on to to try to feel normal.» 16[2020-08-13 00:50:07] < %Nebbie > If you are referring to what I said about you in the politics channel, I was speculating on your recent behavior. 21[2020-08-13 00:50:12] You posted this Nebbie 16[2020-08-13 00:50:12] < %Nebbie > You hav been acting strangely. 21[2020-08-13 00:50:47] Should I mention how weird you sound the way you're talKKing? 16[2020-08-13 00:50:58] < %Nebbie > If you can do so in a civil manner. 21[2020-08-13 00:51:09] Except you broke the NAP. 16[2020-08-13 00:51:13] < %Nebbie > The problem is I don't think you can. 21[2020-08-13 00:51:20] I just wanted to post ponies. Fuck that. 21[2020-08-13 00:51:26] Neither you. 16[2020-08-13 00:51:31] < %Nebbie > You get very worked up about seeing anything about yourself. 21[2020-08-13 00:51:45] So. We're enemies? 16[2020-08-13 00:51:54] < %Nebbie > As a word of advice, people wouldn't talk about you as much if you didn't act like this. 16[2020-08-13 00:52:06] < %Nebbie > I don't particularly consider you anything in relation to me. 21[2020-08-13 00:52:07] Act like what 16[2020-08-13 00:52:22] < %Nebbie > Specifically, you tend to "blow up" like this. 16[2020-08-13 00:52:33] < %Nebbie > Every time you see yourself mentioned, especially in a negative light over your behavior. 16[2020-08-13 00:52:42] < %Nebbie > This then makes people see your behavior as worse. 16[2020-08-13 00:52:46] < %Nebbie > The cycle repeats. 21[2020-08-13 00:53:19] You're cool when people are shitting on you? 16[2020-08-13 00:53:37] < %Nebbie > Normally, yes. 16[2020-08-13 00:53:53] < %Nebbie > It's part of moving on and dealing with stuff. 16[2020-08-13 00:54:28] < %Nebbie > I don't think your Discord ban is going to be lifted given your recent behavior. The problem isn't that you got mad at Disassociativity or me, it's that you kept on things unreasonable. 16[2020-08-13 00:54:32] < %Nebbie > unreasonably* 21[2020-08-13 00:55:02] Imagine if someone like some people actually planned to a while ago, decided to dox you and drop your info and logs on a site like ED or kiwifarms 21[2020-08-13 00:55:09] you would be cool with it? 21[2020-08-13 00:55:28] "move on nothing to see" 16[2020-08-13 00:55:45] < %Nebbie > That would be a lot worse than just being called dumb. 16[2020-08-13 00:55:59] < %Nebbie > And I don't see what it has to do with what's going on. 21[2020-08-13 00:56:32] It's about fucking with people, Nebbie. 16[2020-08-13 00:56:45] < %Nebbie > If there comes a time when you can be more reasonable in response to seeing users potentially being too aggressive talking about you, you can be unbanned at that time. 16[2020-08-13 00:57:10] < %Nebbie > I will be talking briefly to Disassociativity just about harshness of wording talking about individuals. 21[2020-08-13 00:57:25] Nah she's not gonna change her mind but I will 16[2020-08-13 00:57:25] < %Nebbie > I don't think he went all that far, but it's probably best that we rein in some of that. 16[2020-08-13 00:58:05] < %Nebbie > Now, since we hav reached an impasse, I'm going to ask that you leave this channel, in case someone needs help with a private issue. 21[2020-08-13 00:58:08] But on the other hand if you don't solve the situation 16[2020-08-13 00:58:27] < %Nebbie > Relatedly, I think we've accrued two lurkers... 21[2020-08-13 00:58:31] Shit will happen. There are plenty of lolcow sites willing to get that storu. 21[2020-08-13 00:58:37] *story 32[2020-08-13 00:59:08] * DBotThePony was kicked from #derpibooru-help by Nebbie (This channel is not meant for lurking.) 32[2020-08-13 00:59:17] * Compu was kicked from #derpibooru-help by Nebbie (This channel is not meant for lurking.) 21[2020-08-13 01:00:12] I don't give a fuck anymore about this site or this channel. You fucked up. It was cool being a drawfag and all but in the end what do I obtain in return? «Shut up we dont want your opinions» 21[2020-08-13 01:00:38] You don't have respect, why should I offer respect in return 16[2020-08-13 01:01:40] < %Nebbie > I think that's a poor excuse for your actions. I'm going to kikk you now because this matter is, as far as I believe, closed. Please do not rejoin this channel unless you hav a new issue. 21[2020-08-13 01:02:08] The whole chat is on public anyways. 21[2020-08-13 01:02:23] Also learn to fucking type 16[2020-08-13 01:02:26] < %Nebbie > Actually this channel is supposed to be private, it's sometimes used for discussing private info. 16[2020-08-13 01:02:42] < %Nebbie > That's why I don't want people lurking here forever etc. 16[2020-08-13 01:02:56] < %Nebbie > Anyways, bye.